"I don't have proof"
"or actually is it that you don't want to see proof"
"There is no proof is what I believe"
"There is no room for beliefs in your science right? i.e empirical sciences?"
"But your proof for god says that I have to believe in him first and then concentrate on him and meditate for years and then also you don't guarantee any result in my life time...so how can I believe such a thing? what Kind of proof is that?"
"And even then you beleive, very implicitly, from your tender ages, that there are somethings called atoms, molecules, electrons protons etc"
"yes because if I look at the experiments and repeat them I will find proof"
"so why don't you do the same with the experiments called for finding god?"
"may take life time you say"
"actually, it may take life times. But anyway....yes it may tike that much longer. How long does it take you to prove electron's existence?"
"may be few days......"
" I dare say life time even for that......you first have to convert sand into glass, then convert that into a lens, then find metal to make a mould of a microscope, then put in the lens, then make sure that the lens is grounded to the degree needed to see the electrons etc etc etc.....will take you a life time I dare you to prove me wrong"
"that's cheating. Why will I try it all on my own. I will instead by an electron microscope"
"even if I agree to that you will take a life time to earn yourself, the money needed to do that, all on your own, without the foundations of anything that you have inherited from family friends etc"
"why should I do such a foolish thing? I will take other's help"
"but why do you not do that for finding god? why do you forsake the foundation laid by your family and friends (rishish and culture etc)? why do you do such a foolish thing only when trying to proove god?"
"But........"
"or else you can say the government has proved that instead of you proving or some other people have proved it.......Just because in proving god there is no commercialisation yet, there is no superspecialised people who will keep each step in proving the way to god ready for you Just to be used, without any personal effort, just like you find an electron microscope or other lab equipment needed to prove electrons, just because the nature of this discovery means that you have to do all these steps yourselves and hence don't undertake the journey at all, just because you don't take the joureny at all you don't find proof and hence in short, because of your short falls you don't even undertake experiments needed to prove god, so instead of saying I don't know, you say there is no proof......IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOUR OWN SCIENTIFIC REASONING?"
"but how can I undertake such experiments at such colossal loss of personal things, if there is no guarantee that the path/guru who guides me, are not cheats?"
"so you say the so called science has never cheated you?...shal I give examples?....."
"no need. But, but......."
"There you go.......neeLLU namulutunnaavu. Though empirical science is not the only sceince that is the biggest cult now and you are all their followers. You equate sceince with empiricism or proof and forsake rest of all. Ok Agreed. but when asked to repeat the experiments i.e the sadhana needed to prove god, then you don't do that and say instead no proof"
"But will that not be a self fulfilling conditioning of mind to such an extent that I will see a hallucination or delusion of a god appearing before me after this so called Tapas needed?"
"what do you think your sceince is? is it not a delusion in one sense? is it not a hallucination in another sense? If god's appearence after sadhana is a delusion/hallucination why not hte picture of an electron or proton or a neutron. Will that not be a self fulfilling delusion/hallucination?'
"oh.....but who will do all that kind of sadhana?"
"nice tactic change of track But let me deal with it. Yes, who will do it? Just like all other fields, only those who seek, will finally, discover the "truth" whatever that may be"
"yes, it is all so relative is it not this world, these believes, these proofs.....Is there any absolutes at all that we can anchor ourselves to? Everything seems to be nailed to the frames of references, which appear to be individualistic and hence can not be called absolutes"
"yes, there is a constancy i.e death. But you fly away from contemplating that."
"don't talk about death....I hate it"
"no, you rather are scared of the only universal truth but ok let me shy away from it as per your wish......for now atleast"
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